Dime en qué libro de TW sale la historia de TW3. Sabes si quieres que los juegos pasan 5 años después que terminan los libros? 
Re culiao deja de editar que pierdo el hilo
A ver, mistralín, qué mierda con ROP?
tekken, la serie sobrevalorada 
Eso puse pero ni leis callampero qlo
Estás diciendo que los wnes se quejan porque la serie saca cosas inventadas por ellos y que no se basan en nada del material original. TW hace lo mismo sabes qué más ctm, chupalo, ando con la caña pa seguir con esta wea 
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No tome tanto estimado
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Pense que la cantidad de posteos era porque estaban comentando el capítulo de HOD pero no, solo era otro debate con el urinario de estadio 
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Más fome que la chucha esa wea 
OBvio si no conoces el cómic 
iTard un todólogo, ahora es un experto en Tolkien.
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No hay que ser experto para entender que hay todo un mundo detrás de la obra de Tolkien, no son solo un puñado de fans ñoños como algunos quieren hacerlo ver y es algo que trasciende las generaciones por eso a día de hoy sigue siendo relevante
Ese se comenta en el topic de HBO Max 
Que tiene tiempo libre este ql, ahora anda haciendo walltext por cualquier hueá
Aumentaron los gigas de conexión en El Peral
Tremenda mentira xd hay un montón de cosas importantes de los libros eliminadas/modificadas de la trilogía de PJ
???
Literal este fue el mismo llanto que hubo hace 20 años con la trilogía de PJ xd
Dejo un extracto de un thread de reddit donde recopilan toda esta info de los foros de tolkien:
Insulting Peter Jackson:
- I have come to the conclusion that he is probably not a good director // Reminder that this was one month before the movie release
- I know that Peter what-his-name may have cinematic license, but DID THIS DUDE EVER READ THE BOOKS!
- Jackson is taking ludicrous and unecessary liberties with the movie! I must cry out WHY? WHY? WHY? Why not leave things as they are???
- Tolkien created an extremely detailed and consistent universe; for the bastard peter jackson to disrespect it is unconsciounable
- From the many quotes I’ve seen from PJ and actors, they have a pretty warped idea of “lover of the books” and “staying true to the story”. What a load of two-sided, speaking out of both sides of the mouth, drivel!
- They’re spouting lies the whole time. I mean, listen to Sean Astin’s quote! He obviously hasn’t read the books himself, so apparently Mr. Jackson has been lying to his own cast as well.
- How could PJ do this. LOOOOOOOOSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR
- To feel better about him/herself, the director simply looks for something to change. Watch a housewife, sorry ladies, try to decide how to decorate a room and you get my drift.
- The writer [Tolkien] needs to get mean and face up to the child-like director and marketing freaks. // If that had happened, Tolkien would be known as Tolkien the White
- PJ appears to feel his changes are insignificant and shouldn’t trouble anyone. Sheesh… what an idiot!
- I feel he intends this as his legacy … and is milking it for every bit of publicity it’s worth. I mean no-one had heard of him before this! ( how the hell did he manage to get to be the one to do it I wonder )!
- Hollywood screwed LOTR to high heaven, maybe PJ could be killed by a chaotic fan // They might have said that sarcastically though. Not sure.
- May the dreaded swan boat sail over your grave peter jackson and Glorfindel’s white horse personaly pee on it // r/BrandNewSentence
- if he doesn’t change them i will RIP OF HIS THROAT AND $#!+ DOWN IT AND THEN I SHALL CRUSH HIM WITH MY DRAGON BLUDRAG
Insulting the cast:
- Liv Tyler is every bit as guilty as Jackson. She volunteered to destroy the character for money. To her it was just another script. And she, rich as she is, decided she would take part in the blasphemy that is what has happened with her character. Any actor with a conscience should have turned that down when they considered the disappointment of fans.
- If he wanted Liv Tyler to be the action heroine… cast her as Eowyn. I think that it is ironic that PJ cast her in the tame role of Arwen and casts a nobody as Eowyn.
- As for Christopher Lee…well…We are talking about a guy who was not beneath taking cheap roles in wretched Hammer Films productions of every incarnation of Dracula imaginable, so I can see where the money in his pocket was not problem…how else do you explain why he has said nothing about his character apparently being killed at Orthanc
- I think what you see in the cast list are people who… don’t really have a career anymore but are willing to ignore the fact that they are prosituting themselves and Tolkien’s writings so long as they get paid…(This is the ONLY thing I can use to describe Christopher Lee, who claims to re-read the books every year)
- We already know Ian McKellen’s done a lousy job // Oh do you??
- What a bunch of BS. How anyone can listen to this guy any longer is unfathomable to me. // (Ian McKellen (Gandalf) defended PJ against fan criticism before the movies was even out, and this fan called it a bunch of BS)
- Jackson [has] ugly characters playing the beautiful ones… FoTR has Elrond’s actor and Cate Blanchett.
- Doesn’t Celborn look like an a number one WUSS!! Why couldn’t they have picked someone with a little more presence.
BTW, this is how Ian defended the movie and PJ (which the fan called BS): "The devotion to that man [Tolkien], I think, was equal to everyone’s devotion to Peter Jackson. It was never, ‘Ah good, we’ve got this storyline, let’s see what we can do with it.’… When this film comes out, it will just say 'New Line [Cinema] presents The Lord of the Rings. It’s not going to be ‘A Film by Peter Jackson.’ Now, wouldn’t you think you’d earned the right, having brought this project to life, to have your name up there? The man you meet is the man we saw every day. He’s only got one pair of shoes. He’s always in shorts. He’s always in the same shirt. He generates such enthusiasm just simply by being himself. He’s not a star, but his knowledge is formidable. You can go to him and absolutely get your answer."
Arwen shouldn’t fight, ride a horse, or have many dialogues, or… kiss Aragorn?:
- She’s just supposed to be this little Elven-hottie that sits in the Hall of Fire & has next to no lines, and Aragorn marries her in the end. // Wow… just wow…
- in the book as others have stated already, she simply sits there looking pretty
- If you’re gonna give that scene to Arwen… HELL! YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE HER LEAD THE FELLOWSHIP! HELL!!! YOU MIGHT AS WELL LET HER CARRY THE RING TO MORDOR ALL BY HERSELF!!! SHE SURE DOESN’T NEED ANY HOBBIT WHEN, BEING THE MOST COURAGEOUS AND BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN MIDDLE EARTH, SHE CAN DO IT ALL BY HERSELF!!!
- theArwen-warrior-spell-casting-witch-ifyouwanthimcomeandclaimhim-steroid wench REALLY REALLY BOTHERS ME!!!
- I think that by turning her into this warrior sorceress Mr. Jackson is twisting and cheapening her character
- And I’m not someone who always hates “political correctness.” But this is different entirely.
- If the movie (I mean all three parts) was made to represent the book as closely as possible, as should have been, women would have had an incredibly small role in this film, and would have been nearly absent entirely… But political correctness (also known as BULLS**T) in Hollywood won’t allow that.
- Lets make the characters more “exciting” and “politically correct”, regardless of how Tolkien wanted it… Why don’t we just make Lassie a cat. Down with PJ! // (He’s referring to the movie/tv show about a dog called Lassie)
- the screenwriter is a woman, and as we all know middle earth is a very sexist planet, so in the interest of pleasing half of the audience of the movie a woman would need to be shown more often and as someone more important
- Arwen looks like a little girl pouting fit and have to have he[r] grammy come and console her
- not to mention they show Aragorn kissing Arwen, yep .
And a big shoutout to Liv Tyler (Arwen) who was harassed by fans who dubbed her XenArwen as in Xena Arwen because she did fighting in the movie, and then straight-up said in an interview that “If you don’t want to see what another person does with the part, then don’t go to the movies.” I don’t think many actors today have the courage to say that to fans.
Gandalf looks weird/stupid:
- Gandalf grabbing Frodo and asking “IS IT SAFE?” like some crazy old man.
- Gandalf becomes a sputtering madman, “Is it here? Is it SAFE?!?”.
- And Gandalf, sputtering like a senile old man?!
- Yeah right, Gandalf is a nutcase who is stupid enough to bump hid head in a house he visited many times.
- It sounds like Gandalf is a stooge; what does he do, fart when you pull his beard???
- He does seem a bit of a scaredy cat in the clips. Well if it’s any consolation he will die before the end. You might be wishing for that bit to come quick though. // First time I’ve seen anyone hoping to see Gandalf die faster…
Elrond looks off:
- he’s just as homely as he was on The Matrix!! Except he’s supposed to be beautiful as Elrond!! What happened??
- I can’t look at Elrond without hearing him say “How are you going to speak Mr. Anderson, when you have…no mouth?”
Galadriel is ugly:
- Galadriel isn’t nearly beautifull enough
- Cate Blanchett?? Don’t ask me from what gene pool PJ picked his elves from…
Lurtz (the Uruk Hai that killed Boromir) isn’t in the books so shouldn’t exist:
- And this Lurtz dude, what is with adding him in? I’m not sure if he is actually purple/blue, but in a couple pics I have seen he is purple/blue… He kind of reminds me of… Barney the purple dinosaur shudders in a way. // New meme: Boromir killed by Barney the purple dinosaur
- I’d say it Lurtz. And, I don’t think it even sounds like an orc name.
BTW this was mentioned at least 20-30 times in that thread. But it’s pretty repetitive so I didn’t include more.
Orcs popping out of cocoons is weird and breaks lore:
- JEEEEEZ!! If it couldn’t get any worse!! Orcs from pods?
- I… was absolutely horrified, it was the most disgraceful thing I had ever seen in my life.
- You would think, since the orcs were made in mockery of the elves, they would reproduce as elves do. What is with the pods and cocoons!!! Does PJ think they’re ants or some sort of bug???
- This is really disturbing me, because PJ is sick enough to put something like this in LOTR. Tolkien would probably have a heart attack if he could see this stuff being done to his wonderful book.
This was mentioned at least 30-40 times in that thread. People were really really obsessed with how Orcs reproduce for some reason…
Victims of false rumors or paranoia:
- LOTR without Treebeard? How does he think to get rid of all the orcs at Helms Deep?
- My deepest fear is that Jackson… has so much desire for Frodo to be liked and so wants there to be a “happy ending” that he might just… let Frodo destroy the Ring at mount doom
- My question, is…from where does the strength come from for that moth to carry Gandalf away from Orthanc and many leagues across ME… Can you imagine on the battlefield in front of Morannon…“The moths are coming! The moths are coming!!” // This one got me good I gotta say. Premium meme material!
- A moth? Gwahir would accidentally eat him, never mind listen to a message from him. // The man actually has a point here lol
- Elves and Uruk-hai have Samurai-style armor
- Who knows what kind of climax RotK will have? Maybe Frodo can put on the ring, use it to cut Smeagol in half, turn it on Barad-dur and blow that up, then take it off and throw it in saying “Later for you!” all the while Limp Bizkit’s latest plays in the background (with special guest vocalist … I don’t know, some rapper.)
- I really hope there is SOMETHING of the real story left. This thread scares the hell out of me
Hollywood is ruining LoTR for money/political correctness:
- You don’t just take that and bastardize it because Hollywood, who as you’ve said does that to movies, wants to get its mud hooks on it and create a big money maker.
- Hollywood seeks money. Art is secondary. Everything else, except in rare cases, is secondary. Producers and directors are hired to make “shock-value” and attract audiences.
- If Hollywood could get away with it, he [Gandalf] would have a machine gun in his hand and saying,“I’ll be back!” // Ok, I actually need this to happen when Gandalf falls off the bridge in Moria
- the movie is not made for the fans. it is made to make MONEY. it is all about profit.
- Hollywood corrupts art to make money. They needed to bring in a charater “politically correct” to have a female role model. Tolkien was not politically correct and that just doesn’t sit well with Hollywood
- Every time there is a movie that we have deep forebodings about, we still go to it to “see what it’s like”. It happened with Aliens III, Alien Resurrection, Episode I, and a dozen others. After we see the movie, we find we hated it after all, yet we still gave them our money! In the end, it doesn’t matter to Peter Jackson or New Line Cinemas (curse them both!)
“I’m a Tolkien purists”:
- Many changes! Blasphemy!
- I just don’t think that it is truly Tolkien and I do believe that it will distort the way “newbies” will view the real LoTR and Tolkien in general.
- Do you even do any research?.. some people do care about what Tolkien intended even if you don’t… What are you here for? // (A purist was borderline cyber bullying someone who dared to want to give the movie a chance)
- This isn’t just a movie. This is supposedly a serious attempt to put the Lord of the Rings, one of the greatest literary works of all time, on screen. It’s not just “entertainment;”
- We (as a generic term) are in fact probably the best authorities on how these movies should be. The “normal person” might not see problems, but that is because the “normal person” does not understand.
- From his letters he was quite adamant about what PJ 's doing now. It’s to be expected that nowadays people will sell out great literature for entertainment. It’s even sadder that people who know better (Tolkien fans) don’t really care. After all, it’s only entertainment.
- It bothers me, especially when the book can stand alone on its own merit rather then needing the “help” of money grabbers who want to make it their own.
- Maybe when you take a few more English classes in school, you will see that.
- I will not, however, accept it as “Lord of The Rings” and will not promote the movie as “Tolkien”.
- I think the worst part is that LoTR will never again be the same, people. All the marketing, all the merchandise, all the misconceptions. PJ’s movie has changed the dynamics of what LoTR was to society.
- I will go now, without so great an expectation of seeing the LOTR… but rather I will simply go see some potentially decent fantasy movie made by some fat, ugly Englishman with a terrible beard.
- Down with PJ! And Down with the ignorant media promoting it and dragging JRR through the mud with their stupid, uninformed comments about ME…
Boycotting the movie:
- I am getting madder and more unmotivated by the minute to see this movie.
- I am reiterating my intention to not give the bastard Peter Jackson even a dime of my money. That’s why God invented the bootleg download. I will not go see this movie in the theatre. I willnot buy or rent it on VHS or DVD. I will download a free copy of the movie off of the Internet. I’ve never done this before and proabably won’t do so again… but I will not give the bastard Peter Jackson a cent of my money.
- if half the things that I have read on this board are true, I will never go to see any of these movies… I would rather read the books backward, word for word, than go see this debacle. I would rather see Harry Potter twenty-seven times in a row than catch the slightest glimpse of an orc-pod.
- We must take a stand now and all vow not to see any of the movies!
- But, I didn’t go [to see the movie]. And I won’t go today, either. Or tomorrow. I choose to keep my integrity, unlike some people who direct block-buster movies.
Other miscellaneous ones:
- Sam and Merry are much too bold when confronted with the Nazgul
- he makes these really quite unnessecary changes, like having Pippin knock a skeleton instead of a rock down the hole in Moria. // This is some advanced nit-picking…
- Anyone know if the Legolas “shield surfing” is still in? // Yes! And it’s a meme now.
- Galadriel floats on some cheesy amusement park boat instead of large swan boat paddled by two elves.
- “Saruman captures Gandalf by fighting a ‘wizard duel’ involving telekinesis, lightning, and Gandalf being slammed against the wall.” Please don’t tell me this is going to be some sort of children movie like Harry Potter or D&D. // Harry Potter and the Wizard Duel, featuring Gandalf and Saruman. I’d watch that!
- The Ringwraiths aren’t all riding black horses. They look brown.
PJ literalmente inventó hueás y cambió lore y terminó creando tres de las mejores películas de la historia xd fue tanto así que ha sido abiertamente criticado por Christopher Tolkien por su obra jaja
El gusto de hablar hueás sin saber
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Igual es distinto cambiar u omitir un par de cosas de la trilogía a hacer una serie de TV de 5 temporadas con una historia totalmente inventada, no digo que sea mala porque no lleva ni un mes pero esa es la razon de la baja expectativa que tiene la gente y los reclamos. Solo con el tiempo se sabrá si flopea o termina siendo una serie decente
¿La baja expectativa que tienen los fans de hierro? de más jaja
La gente que consume contenido mainstream no tiene pico idea del lore de lotr y no le pueden importar menos los llantos de unos hueones que hace 20 años probaron no tener pico idea de cine xd
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La fan base de lotr es grande igual, diría que de las más grandes de la industria junto con la de Harry Potter y tomando eso en cuenta no tomaria tan a huevo esas opiniones porque no es solo un puñado de gente a los que tienes que convencer con la serie, son cientos de miles sino millones
Texto culiao latero la wea pa que nadie pesque la caga se sabe que respetaron un montón de weas a diferencia de otras obras
La meada del año, fin.
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La meada del año es la que hizo que te exiliaras del foro por 3 meses 